Post by Jerry MacDonald on Jan 23, 2015 23:50:38 GMT -5
Hello my name is Jerry, nice to meet you girls...
Just kidding. I didn't lose my memory. I remember exactly what happened. I was promised a spot in the Final 4 and it was taken away from me and I am a still a tad bit butt hurt. But I guess congrats and here are questions for both.
Heather - Please explain to me whether or not you are the villain of the season. Because I believe you are. I do not think you are fake however it appears you manipulated a lot of people on an emotional level to do your bidding, before stabbing them in the back. 50% of the reason I evicted Jessica over you was because I felt so bad about evicting you. The other was because I thought you'd keep your word for the next round, and knew you were right about being in trouble if Ryan won veto. Also I think others would agree you led them on.
I think you played a strategic game, and a good one. But I think you tugged on peoples heart strings and then threw them to the dogs, which is valid... but leads to some bitter jurors.
Nicole - I really want to vote for you. I really do. However, most things I've read said Heather and I did this, Heather and I did that. Would be fine if you weren't sitting next to Heather. What did you do that Heather didn't? Why do you deserve to win over Heather?
Post by Nicole Franzel on Jan 24, 2015 15:37:29 GMT -5
I really don't think that i've said 'Heather and I' a lot. I tried to avoid that. Anyways to answer your questions..
I made a deal with Leo when we won HoH, going over scenarios that we would vote the other person's target out of our noms in case of a tie (he would evict Nathan, I would evict Monika - although that one didn't have a tie). - I wanted Jessica to stay; I thought it would be better if she stayed since the other side was voting her out and since it tied, we would be saving her. I felt she was alone and I was closer to her and thought she could be a vote for me in case I was nominated also.
When I was partnered with Leo, I always made sure to talk about how I felt he was super close with Ryan and the 'other side'/playing both sides so that I would have the votes to stay over him.
Everyone that I talked to when I won HoH at final 7 wanted me to nominate you when I won HoH, however I thought that you could be useful because I felt like you were mostly alone/more of a 'free agent' and if I nominated you I thought that would end any chance of being able to work with you so instead the smarter move was to nom Danielle. People also wanted me to nom you after Ryan won veto however I nominated Donny instead.
Like I said in Danni's thread, Heather wanted Luisa to stay instead of Jessica, but I made sure that Jessica stayed since I thought she would be able to help me more.
I used the information that Jessica gave me to my benefit - by pushing for Danni to leave, who was a huge threat to me, and also knowing that you were telling both Jessica and I opposite things when Jessica left. I feel like Heather would've been blindsided cause she felt like she was safe and that you wouldn't be lying to her.
When deciding who to nom next to Ryan, I would ask the other person (Danni, Jerry) to be a pawn to make sure they were 'okay' with it since it would be to get out Ryan - and if Ryan left then everything would hopefully still be fine. However, they were my intended targets if Ryan won veto so I was covered on everything.
I won more comps than Heather did and all of them were important wins. My targets post-veto all left during my hoh reigns and I won 2 vetos in important spots to guarantee my safety, including the most important veto. I was also never a final nominee after I was nominated in the partners round until the final 3. I was able to save myself and in turn allowed me to choose who I preferred to stay in the rounds.
Thanks for the questions.
Last Edit: Jan 24, 2015 15:38:29 GMT -5 by Nicole Franzel
Hey Jerry! I don't think that I would consider myself the villain of the season (or the hero for that matter,) but I can understand why some people, including you, could feel that way. I think more appropriately I represented an antagonist to certain players. Everyone is the protagonist of their own story after all and I did prevent a lot of people in this game from getting their "happy ending," which was winning the game themselves.
It's funny how that works though, because now as jurors you all have the power to stop me from winning this game too. Hopefully I can convince you all otherwise but we’ll see.
Having answered your question I'd like to use the floor while I still have it in order to address some of your comments. I hope that you don't mind. I think that it might also help clear some things up, about how I believe that I've played this game and how it seems that it's been perceived that I’ve played this game.
You brought up how you felt as though I emotionally manipulated people to get what I wanted and I have to say that I disagree; if I did though, it was never conscious or intentional. I got close to a lot of the jurors, yes, but that’s because I've always just genuinely been interested in getting to know new people. I make friends easily and you're right Jerry, I'm not fake in that regard. I liked, and still do like, most of this cast. Every conversation that I had getting to know you, and everyone else, was for pleasure, because I wanted to and because I was truly invested in learning about all of you as people. That part of the social game came naturally to me, it wasn’t a put on, nor was it some Machiavellian attempt to disarm you all. I honestly can't think of any instances where I leveraged the friendships that I made to guilt people into doing what I wanted them to do game wise.
Strategically though, I played this game with everything that I had and I did it well. I was good at setting my personal feelings for the rest of you aside in order to make the game moves that were best for me.
When you told me that you were evicting me, I have to admit that I went into full on survival mode. I was fighting for my life at that point and I swore to you that you'd have a guaranteed spot in the Final Four if you kept me. I misled you... heck let's not sugar coat it, I lied to you, but I don't remember ever trying to make you feel like you were a bad person or using any other form of emotional blackmail in my attempt to get you to change your vote. As I recall it, all of my reasons for why you should keep me were strategic. I even told you that I understood your thought process but that I still felt like you were making a game mistake, which you were. I didn't need to make you feel bad because you already did feel bad. I think that your conscience was swaying you emotionally, not me. You have a really big heart Jerry and I admire that about you.
What's unfortunate though is that trust is an especially hard thing to build in this game, but it can be shattered in seconds. I was completely committed to a Final Three of you, Nic and me after Danielle left, but once I realized that you'd been ready to vote me out, I just couldn't take any chances. At that point you were damned if you did and damned if you didn’t. My back was against a wall though and I had to say whatever I could to stay alive. I'm sorry that I lied to you, but if I hadn't done that, I feel like I'd probably be on the jury right now and for that reason, I can't say that I regret it.